Muhammad commanded all his followers to learn the Quran from them.
The four chosen by the prophet were specifically:
1. Abdulla Ibn Mas’ud
2. Salim (a freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa)
3. Mu’adh bin Jabal
4. Ubay bin Ka’b. (Sahih Bukhari 6.61.521)
Years after Muhammad died, Abu Bakr, the first caliph decided to compile the Quran, fearing it would be lost.
Did Abu Bakr consult any one of the 4 men that Muhammad personally chose? NO.
Abu Bakr instructed Zaid Ibn Thabit, who was a scribe, to do the job.
Did Zaid consult or request help from any one of the 4 men that Muhammad chose? NO.
Were the 4 great early Quran teachers UPSET that they were ignored and rejected? YES! They were FURIOUS!
They already had their own Quran codices.
After Zaid ibn Thabit finished compiling the first official Quran without input from the four….
The 2nd caliph, Umar, described the Quran: “Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Quran, for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Quran has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available’” (As-Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, page 72)
In Sahih Bukhari 6.61.527 – “Ubayy was the best reciter yet we leave out some of what he recites.”
By the time the 3rd caliph, Uthman, came to power, there were many versions floating around. The books of the 4 great teachers and other hafiz had spread throughout the empire and were used widely and gained popularity.
Due to this confusion, the 3rd Caliph Uthman instructed Zaid ibn Thabit to EDIT his Quran again, which he had compiled years earlier under Abu Bakr. The purpose was to come up with a standard and final official version for correct recitation.
Once that was done, Uthman ordered the burning of the rest of the versions including those of the 4 great teachers personally hand-picked by Muhammad. Sadly, Muhammad was no longer around to disapprove of the situation.
Abdulla Ibn Masud gave a passionate speech as Uthman’s henchmen were burning his Quran, tearfully declaring that he knew the Quran better than anyone else..
“By Allah other than Whom none has the right to be worshipped! There is no Sura revealed in Allah’s Book but I know at what place it was revealed, and there is no verse revealed in Allah’s Book but I know about whom it was revealed. And if I know that there is somebody who knows Allah’s Book better than I, and he is at a place that camels can reach, I would go to him.”
Authors note: The more I read about the sahaba, Ibn Masud, the more I am convinced that it was his Quran that was the true and genuine one. Unfortunately, this Quran is no longer in existence today. Thanks to Uthman.
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What a load of bull. If anyone wants a real understanding of the situation go to reliable muslim sources. Not this page.
Also i am amazed that you claim islam is a false religion and yet believe there was a true book from God that has been lost. If u believe such wouldn’t your effort be better geared toward embracing this religion and then looking for fragments of the truth u thought was lost.
Sue,
What I have quoted here ARE from reliable Muslim sources.
What exactly is the load of bull? Sahih Bukhari?
If you can pinpoint “the load of bull” for everyone, I will be happy to correct it.
Thanks.
Also, where and when did I claim or said that I believe that “there was a true book from God that has been lost”?
I do not believe the Quran is from God.
You people are complaining is their any reference which the page cut it out of context.accept the truth onless u Muslim are trying to tell us you know more than your source of religion
SubhanAllah, amazed with the ignorance in this post. May Allah guide you and open your heart to accept the truth .
1) There is a difference between choosing someone for recitation and writing. (You need to understand and read a bit history on revelation of the Qur’an to know the status Zaid bin Thabit (ra) the scribe of Prophet (saws). please do your homework.
2) what is your proof that these Sahabas were not consulted?
3) what is your proof that they were furious?
4) where is your proof of their manuscripts?
Please dont talk/write without evidence, Islam is a religion of truth and based on strong evidences. It easy to throw opinion and make up stories like was done with earlier scriptures. If you want to talk against the principles of Islam you need to back it with proof from trustworthy sources .
Dear Abdul,
Here are my evidences:
1. From Zaid Ibn Thabit’s own admission:
“I started looking for the Qur’an and collecting it from (what was written on) palm-leaf stalks, thin white stones, and also from the men who knew it by heart, till I found the last verse of Surat at-Tauba (repentance) with Abi Khuzaima al-Ansari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him.”
Surah al-Taubah was found with one person only. But the rule was: Zaid was only supposed to write down what was confirmed by at least TWO of Prophet Muhammad’s Companions. He wrote this verse down even though only one person had any memory of it. None of the 4 teachers had it.
2. How do I know the sahabas were not consulted? Simple.
Ibn Masud’s Quran had 110 chapters; Ubayy bin Ka’b had 116 chapters. How many chapters does your Quran have?
Here are some specific references:
“Concerning the arrangement of the Qur’an in the manuscript of Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud, Al-Fadl ibn Shadhan said, “I found in a manuscript of `Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud the surahs of the Qur’an in accordance with the following (different) sequence … These are one hundred and ten surahs.” (Al-Nadim, p. 53)
Here is another one.
One of our reliable friends has informed us, saying that the composition of the surahs according to the reading of Ubayy ibn Ka’b is in a village called Qariyat al-Ansar, two parasangs from al-Basrah, where in his home Muhammad ibn Abd al-Malik al-Ansari showed us a Qur’anic manuscript, saying, “This is the copy of Ubayy which we have, handed down from our fathers.” I looked into it and ascertained the headings of the surahs, the endings of the revelations, and the numbers of verses. … one hundred and sixteen surahs. (Al-Nadim, pp. 58-61)”
3. My proof that they were furious?
Read what Ibn Masud said about the Quran produced by Zaid Ibn Thabit:
“By Allah other than Whom none has the right to be worshipped! There is no Sura revealed in Allah’s Book but I know at what place it was revealed; and there is no verse revealed in Allah’s Book but I know about whom it was revealed. And if I know that there is somebody who knows Allah’s Book better than I, and he is at a place that camels can reach, I would go to him”
“The people have been guilty of deceit in the reading of the Qur’an. I like it better to read according to the recitation of him (Prophet) whom I love more than that of Zaid Ibn Thabit. By Him besides Whom there is no god! I learnt more than seventy surahs from the lips of the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, while Zaid Ibn Thabit was a youth, (before embracing Islam) having two locks and playing with the youth”.
4. Where is my proof of their manuscripts?
What did Uthman burn? Numerous manuscripts including the manuscripts of these teachers. The fact that these Qurans with 110 chapters and 116 chapters do not exist today is proof that they have been destroyed.
The Quran you have today is the recitation of Hafs who lived long after Muhammad and his sahabas.
It’s obvious that it is you have not studied the history of the development of your Quran. Why don’t you give me your strong evidences to refute me?
How ironic and hypocritical that you said, “Please dont talk/write without evidence”, yet you claim that the “earlier scriptures were made up stories”.
Where is your evidence? Can you back it up from trustworthy sources?
https://www.icraa.org/surahs-mushaf-ibn-masud/
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Please understand that Hadith is not an art, it is a science. This is why we have scholars who study many hadith to provide context, sort out fabrications, and refine our understanding of the hadith. You cannot make assertions about any scientific field if you don’t understand; same with hadith, you can ask questions or you can say it seems to you that this is off, but you are not an authority on the subject (no offense meant), we can look up and see that the sun looks yellow, but the sun primarily emits radiation that comes off as a greenish colour and it only appears yellow to us because of our atmosphere (to my knowledge based on what scientists have claimed). I think you get my point, it appears as if some chapters are missing or destroyed just at a glance, but the scholars who study the field in depth know this isn’t the case, and as a regular person I accept the authority of the scholars just as you might accept the authority of the engineer who built your car even though you don’t know how to, or the historians who taught you about the Roman empire.
What a fuss!!! God forgives us…those who don’t know wrote knowledge, this page is fitna
What exactly is the fitna/lie on this page?
Is Sahih Bukhari fitna?
May Allah continue to guide and bless you for this wonderful deliverance from blind hypocritical scholars who want to lead us into the pit
Thank you sir