If tomorrow morning, I make a claim that an angel of God had appeared to me i the night and told me to write a new holy book and to call it the final and ultimate scriptures for the whole world, would you accept what I say?
You’d laugh at me. You’d call me delusional. You might even challenge me to show some form of proof or evidence, that an angel had really appeared to me. If I cannot offer any evidence, what would you call me? A lunatic and a liar?
But let’s say, you choose to give me the benefit of the doubt, and decide to examine my new book, just to humor me. Then as you start reading my book, you find that it does not agree with the earlier revealed book, the Quran.
Would you accept my claim that my book is the right one and that your book should be rejected? Of course not. I will need to show proof that what I state in my book can be backed up by solid evidence!
What if I explain to you that the reason my scripture differs from the Quran is because it is the Quran that has been corrupted? Would that be ridiculous! Of course, that does not make sense.
I better be ready to back up every claim in my book that differs from your book. And not make allegations that the Quran is changed, and therefore my book is true.
In other words, you would not judge your Quran based on what my new book says. Rather, you will judge my book based on what your Quran says! If my book contradicts the earlier revelation of the Quran, then my book is wrong. As simple as that.
The Burden Of Proof
The Quran was written in 7th century AD by the recitations of a man in the desert who claimed an angelic being visited him. I’m not saying it didn’t happen. I’m asking, can anyone verify this visitation? Or is it just the claims of one man? There were no witnesses to what actually happened. And Muhammad did no miracles to prove what he was saying, like the prophets of old like Moses or Elijah.
Yet, he revealed a new book, the Quran, that contradicts the earlier revealed scriptures, the Bible. The Bible was written between 1400 BC & 95 AD. By 400AD, hundreds of years before Muhammad, the Bible was already widely distributed throughout the known world at that time in multiple languages. And yet, Muslims claim that it is the Bible that has been corrupted instead of showing proof that what the Quran claims is true. Muhammad himself never claimed that the earlier scriptures were corrupted or lost. In fact, he affirmed and praised them.
You cannot judge the Bible based on what the Quran says. Rather, you have to judge the Quran based on what the Bible says. Since Islam came many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Quran. If the Bible and the Quran contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Quran is the one in error until it proves itself.
the quran might have been modified
The quran has definitely been modified.
Aisha, the favorite wife of the Prophet, said:
“During the time of the Prophet, the chapter of the Parties used to be two hundred verses when read. When Uthman edited the copies of the Quran, only the current (verses) were recorded” .
Uthman edited the copies to only had haraka to the copies… meaning accent marks, so non-Muslims can read it easier.
That is modifying.
That happened in the presence of prophet muhammed ( please be upon him) , as the quran is revealed to him , he knows what should be in the quran and dont forget gabriel always guided him and he’s a messenger of god so anything happened in his presence cant be taken as a modification
it is still modified, you are wrong
It isn’t a modification if it was basically done by the prophet of Muhammad pbuh himself. Non of the meanings were changed it just added pronunciation marks
the quran is a biological child of the bible which might have been modified
Sorry that doesnt make sense. Books are not biological.
As we enter into a new phase of evil by the hands of radical Islamic terrorism and a growing false religion, it is good to have some idea of what that religion is. Thank you for your keen insight.
is the Nation of Islam not Gods promise to Ishmael?
Abraham was blessed so that his descendants would be as numerous as the dust of the earth. God would make of Ishmael a great nation because he was of the seed of Abraham. However, God told Hagar that her son would be a “wild ass (donkey) of a man” (Genesis 16:12), living in conflict with his relatives.
Great question
What you mean is quran teaches terrorism? Open your eyes widely my friend, as muslims we believe torah, bible and quran was revealed by god , as you mention if islam really promotes terrorism you have to open up your bible and torah where it has mentioned alott about terrorism. If you take the percentage torah has 52% bible has 4.3% and quran has 2.3% and still the media is into the muslims, that all doesnt mean god wants us to go fight and kill each other . At that particular time they needed that , sorry if my english isnt that great , stop accusing a book even without reading or studying it. To educate you the meaning of islam itself means peace ✌🏼😇. The person who wrote this article have mentioned about a new book which has revealed(quran) so what about bible isnt it new to the torah , if you go ask the jews they would tell jesus is a liar and mother marry wasnt a good women , asthagfirla we believe he was a prophet of god and his mother was a virgin ( please be upon them all) . Dont get trap to the devils plan brother he has challenged the lord that he will misguide all human being. Quran is the last revelation and it has shown how to live in this modern world till the end and anyone who doesnt accept it would be in loss .
Hi there, there were 300 prophecies in the old testament about a coming messiah.
Even when Jesus was alive he said they (the jews) have to kill him so the will can be accomplished. If Jesus didn’t die for our sins it wouldn’t be paid. He literaly came to earth to teach us and die for our sins that’s why the jews didn’t accept him also they wanted to keep religion strict for their own gain because they were making money in the church and Jesus didn’t like that. So the old testament and the new testament are clear and it was finished. Why would muhammed come around 600 AD and have a book written he can benefit from.
Answer this what did Jesus benefit from getting beat and being hung? why did he even want to do this for humans? He had no wives no money or fame no sin no desire of this world but to love.
And tell me how Muhammad benefited from creating Quran.
My friend you don’t know about his scarifices look at this
https://www.al-islam.org/restatement-history-islam-and-muslims-sayyid-ali-ashgar-razwy/sacrifices-muhammad-islam
The bible never contradicts the Tora, the gospels actually confirm the Tora that is why the second testament and the gospels are true. Jesus is the messiah that prophet Isaiah in the old testament prophesies about therefore the scripture was fulfilled and Jesus Christ truly is alive and the lord
Wouldn’t that be the truth for the Bible?
So shouldn’t the same logic apply when comparing the Torah to the bible(New Testament).
Yes, it should.
And the New Testament does not contradict the Old Testament.
Someone put it this way:
“The New Testament is in the Old concealed, and the Old is in the New revealed.”
Meaning that…
The things described in the OT find their full meaning in the NT.
Amen!
The Prophecies of God’s Word have come to fulfilment in succession, proving the Holy Bible is the Only True Scriptures that came from the True God; Jesus Christ, and a few more are yet to be fulfilled until it is complete when the LORD Jesus Christ Returns!
Exactly and I started reading the quran ( just for research purposes) and what I noticed is that
It starts just like the bible ( with Adam) but the bible was written before which really makes you think because the bible talks about those who will twist the words of God.
The bible was written way before the quran, old and new , so no wonder
The confusion started when christians(catholics ) decided to believe jesus himself is god which doesnt make sense, if that was the case he would have mentioned it clearly saying that he created the universe and everything it contains . Coz we as muslims prostrate only to one god , the one who made everything which is into existence and we call him allah and we are in the safe side . Just think you worshipping soneone who created you and the whole universe , what risk have you taken by doing that and the sad truth is jesus came to deliver the truth and some people at that time took himself as a god which doesnt make sense at all( the catholics) and till now they make there own rules and its all decided according to the churches and i heard one of my catholic friends saying that there’s no hell or heaven and all our since are forgiven, brother are you kidding me so we are here to party ? Its so lame ( dont foeget my friend the devil has promised the god he will misguide humanity( and the god which i mentioned now isnt jesus its the one who created jesus). If that was the case musas, abraham, solomon who had authority to every existence since they also had powers and so many prophets , quran mentions 123,000 prophets and so many of them had miracles coz people were not that educated and they needed some kind of a miracle so they can believe in what has been said is tru , and for the last prophet he didnt have to have miracles Since people had some sought of knowledge and jesus knew there will come a last prophet before his arrival and its mentioned in the bible saying that ‘there will come a maythiri and he shall guide you coz you are not able to take everything now’ . Anyone is not risking following the quran coz you aren’t taking a risk at all coz already for christians they believe they going to heaven no matter what they do just think my friend what if it was wrong since jesus never mentioned it saying oh people i am dying for your sins . Actually its sad coz his people didnt take the right message and his death didnt bring up any goodness accept for some christians who believes thrs only one god , he cried and fought asking everyone not to worship idols even in the Ten Commandments it has mentioned not to eorship idols and most of the churches thrs a man hanging on the cross , do u know even he’s the real jesus and where did the cross come from ?, the cross was from the people who tried to kill him’ they selected the cross ‘ n sadly everyone is worshiping that 😪 which means his messaged didnt pass, its not a thing to have ego u shoukd have a open mind to accept things coz we live only once take a wise decision
There is one thing that all religions have in common that there is a supreme power a god that holds everything made everything but when I showed that there is the blood of Jesus and you do not believe and you want to believe in a prophet that has died and is not going to come back you’re destined to hell you must believe in the son of God came to Earth died on the cross for our sins if you do not there is a place that you will go if you do there is a place that you will go there is no proof of anything Muhammad wrote God doesn’t tell people to kill people he wants you to save people he wants you to change people
Brother to educate you about killing on the books the statistics says torah has 53% , bible 4.3, quran 2.4 and why you people think muslims are terrorists its funny 😆 islam means peace ✌🏼 The word love in the wuran is more than in any other books my friend, educate yourself before talking
First of all, Islam means “submission” not “peace”.
As for your alleged statistics about ‘killings’mentioned in Scriptures, here is the difference you need to understand.
The Bible is a narrative. That means, when it mentions incidences of violence or killings, it is not a command or endorsement for us to kill. It is a historical record of wars, violence, etc.
The Torah is a historical record of God’s dealing with Israel. Jesus never commanded us to kill anyone. Not even our enemies.
Secondly, your claim that Quran mentions love more times than any other book is false. Maybe you were deceived by your scholars.
The word ‘LOVE’ appears about 45-79 times in the whole of the Quran mostly in expressions such as ( in love; love of wealth; love of life; love of Allah; love of woman; love of self; love of other believers or love in the abstract; 2:177; 3:31, 103, 119;5:54; 9:23; 19:96; 38:32 etc).
The word LOVE in the Bible appears more than 310 times (KJV translation).
Thank you
The Quran is the devil’s book and should not be followed. The Angel Gabriel told Mary, that she would bear a SON, WHO would be called the SON of GOD. The SON that Mary bore, had been called the SON of GOD for centuries, long before Muhammed was born. But this same Angel, according to the Quran, returns and contradicts everything he said to Mary centuries before?! There is no question that the Quran is a lie and should not be taken seriously. Secondly, GOD warns us, in the book of Deuteronomy, not to add or remove anything to and from the BIBLE respectively. We should not add our own text to the BIBLE, and that includes the Quran, because the BIBLE is complete, according to GOD. Anything added to the BIBLE is not from GOD. Angel Gabriel appeared to a christian back in 2005 before Christmas, and this same Angel that allegedly appeared to Mohammed was honouring JESUS, as the SON of GOD. Angel Gabriel never said a word about muhammed and the Quran.
U better not call Quran a devil’s book julius, why dont u read it first if u got that guts and then judge it? Its easy to put up blame on quran but can u prove it? That the holy Quran is devil’s book? Well i very well know that u cant, so u better not say what u said ok, or else it wont take a second for me to call your holy book a book of devil
Its very clear you never read the quran and muhammed wasant mentioned in the quran many times coz it was revealed to him and why quran if you ask , its because even after jesus ,people still was worshipping idols like stones crosses and a dead man hanging , he warmed the people (10 commandments) not to worships idols and still this stupid people dont understand so muhammed was to come n he came and showed the right way to worship the god the lord himself alone
If a Hebrew translator were to sit down and read the actual Hebrew Scrolls to you people WORD FOR WORD you would be totally shocked at the difference between it and what the Greek, Latin, and English translations and alterations say it says. The Wool has been pulled over the peoples eyes long ago and as profitable as it has been no one seen fit to straighten it out.
That is not true at all. As expected you have not provided a shred of evidence.
Here is the Hebrew Bible word for word. Read it yourself.
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/1.htm
Only Jesus guarantee Heaven to those who believes and accept Him. In John 14:6-7 He clearly said that He is the way, the truth, and the life and no one comes to the Father except through Him. In Revelation 17-18 He said that He is the first and the last, (means no other prophet after Him…hence, Muhammad and all other after Him is a fake) and He has the keys of death and of Hades. Lastly, why I choose Jesus because in John 25-26 He said that whoever believes in Him though he/they may die, he shall live and whoever lives and believes in Him shall NEVER DIE. No other prophet before Him or after Him dares to say and guarantee this. So why should I believe in other teaching and others after Jesus? Muhammad is a fake prophet and whoever believes in his teachings will die and suffer in hell forever. Don’t take the risk my fellow Muslim friends. If you read your Quran with clear mind you will realize that it is the corrupted version of the Bible and you will know that Jesus will come on judgement day and if you don’t accept Him now and still believe in your prophet Muhammad you will die and suffer for eternity in hell. Even prophet Muhammad don’t know what will happen to him if he dies (Bukhari, vol. 9, book 87, no 145) If Muhammad doubt his chance of going to heaven what more those who believes in him. That is why he asked his followers to pray for him so that God will grant him entrance to heaven. (According to Ibn Mas’ud). Means Muhammad also don’t know whether he is going to heaven or not and need his followers to pray for him everyday. If Muhammad cannot guarantee life and heaven to his followers would it be a wise thing for Muslims to continue and follow his teachings? But Jesus guarantee Heaven and life to those who accept and believe in Him (John 25-26). In His own words! He is alive and have return to see His disciples and mother after the crucifixion and will return again on judgement day. Muhammad is dead and never return and never ever made any miracles during His lives or after. So my fellow Muslims do you want to take the risk? If you accept Jesus you have a place in Heaven. You continue to believe in your prophet Muhammad you don’t have any guarantee where you are going after you die just like your prophet and even his faithful disciple Mohamad, Abu Bakar also doubt his chances of going to heaven. Read and STUDY your Quran clearly and you will know that you have been deceived your whole life. None that is written in the Quran that guarantees eternal life and Heaven to its believer. Please read carefully what your prophet said about life after dead. There is only one simple and guaranteed way. Accept Jesus and believe in Him only! Don’t take the risk! Jesus will accept and open His arms wide for all Muslims. He is calling all Muslims to His Kingdom. Please take the opportunity and accept His free offer now. God bless everyone.
I think it might be a waste of energy saying who is right and who is wrong. We all can’t prove anything. We weren’t there back then. I will respect the Bible, Torah , and Qur’an.
Have you read the Bible and the Quran?
The Quran contradicts the Bible, which came earlier.
Both cant be right. If one is right, then the other is wrong.
If you have noticed, all these comments are from doubtful Christians, not Muslims. I stumbled on this website without meaning to. You all are genuinely confused and are unconsciously questioning your own religion. I did not come here to argue as the misguided will always be misguided. In the quran, Allah (S.W.T) says, “We (Allah) did not appoint you as a guardian over them (disbelievers), nor are you a trustee over them…You shall remind, for you are but a reminder. You are not a controller over them” (6:106-107 , 88:21-22) So I came here to say what I want to and then I will let it be.
Christians will always think Muslims are misguided and Muslims will always think Christians are misguided. So let us both wait. When we will die, we will soon find out which lord was the correct lord and which religion was truly misguided and lost. Until then, You have your religion and I have mine. I believe in one god and that is Allah (Subhana Wa Tala, Glory to him, the most exalted) and I believe that Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W, Peace Be Upon Him) was the last messenger. Allah is pure and most exalted above whatever you associate with Him!
Say, “O people, the truth has come to you from Allah. Whoever is guided is guided for himself and whoever goes astray does so to his own detriment. I am not a trustee (or a guardian) over you… If they (disbelievers) turn away, your sole mission is the delivery of the message. Allah is Seer of the people” (10:108 , 3:20)
Fatih, you say you did not come here to argue but you start of your comment by accusing everyone of being genuinely confused. 🙂 🙂
And praised a Man. Not a god. We should only peace God😰😩
Which book is the oldest book.. I mean… bible or Quran come first
Bible
i have read all the comments and realized a bunch of confused muslims. if the bible came first then quran is fake. because even the fake products in the market tend to come after the real ones. Am saying this because prophet Isa A.S whom muslims claim he is Jesus, says in the quran (suratil maryam verse 33)that ‘Peace is upon me on the day i am born and on the day that i will die and on the day that i will be risen to life’… According to that statement prophet Isa will one day die and be risen back to life, but yet the muslims say that Jesus who is Isa A.S didnt die on the cross and they crucified someone else instead, because God took Isa A.S to heaven so as to protect him from his enemies. NOW THE QUESTION IS; WILL PROPHET ISSA come back to earth to die so as to fulfill the words he spoke in the SURATIL MARYAM 33??…. and if he comes back to die what was the use of him being saved from death at first.
Islam is false because it is built on the fundamental lie that Muhammad was a real prophet, rather than a man simply pretending to be a prophet in order to gain power over people. Of course one can make the same claim about Joseph Smith or L Ron Hubbard or any number of other founders of man-made religions which have been created from time to time throughout history. A religion which venerates an evil man and raises him to the level of the perfect model for human conduct, cannot help but lead men to evil action – even jihad. R.Bynum
A good book on the subject is Answering Islam by Dr. Norman Geisler. Here’s s link to shine other resources is that’s allowed here.
https://alwaysbeready.com/islam/
The fact is, you are God and God is you. There can be no God without you and there can be no you without God. We are all one.
exactly, one who understands. on point.
Us Christians, let us love our fellow Muslim brothers. Muslim, let us love our fellow Christians brothers. For love surpasses all. Both religion are from the Abrahamic faith. One God who is the creator of the heavens and the earth. Be kind to each Other even in the state of introducing your religion to them. Love you all.
well said.
Yes definitely the last version… it has just copied and modified bible …this itself is a proof …none are terrorists,but how could a modified version of Bible claim to be the original version…however time says it all ,that’s the reason y we use B.C and A.D and not anything related to Mohammed saying Bm and ad..
If you compare the Bible to history it says a lot. The Bible is based on facts . What God said he would do he did. And what he’s going to do he will do. History books match the Bible U can clearly see right now things the Bible said would happen and it is in this moment. So any other religions that came after the Bible are doctrines from a man with his own agenda. People really read the Bible there are truths and facts about everything that you speak of. It’s all there.
In quran there as many facts that were not discovered that time but now are bieng discovered one such information about relativity
4- To Him ascend the angels and the spirit in
a day the measure of which is fifty thousand years.
(70- The Heights, 4)
5- He regulates all affairs from the heaven to the earth. Then they ascend to Him in a day, the measure of which is a thousand years as you count.
(32- The Prostration, 5)
this verse is from quran translated. This was written 1400 years ago don’t belive it google it
I read comment by comment the fight and the bickering between two faiths. At the end of the fight, does no one see??? The true fight here is how to devote and love The ONE TRUE CREATOR.. God
GOD which by another name mentioned in all kinds of texts is still the ONE GOD.
As far as the Bible it has been changed several times in the past and only certain people have access to the REAL WRITINGS. There are books that should be in the Bible and are not.
See the way religion has been used since the beginning has always been to control and to guide people into doing what is said and not questioning it. Whether you go to the first recordings of the first religions or the last recordings of religion.
If you want to go by age and say the Bible was first… how about those who believe that take a look at ancient Summarian texts which predates the Bible by thousands of years and even talks about Yaweh as coming after the Summarian’s and their belief system. Not to mentions the SCIENTIFIC PROOF THAT THE SUMMARIANS PREDATED YAWEH.
And for those who do not know the name YAWEH you shouldn’t even be part of this discussion.
MiaStarChild,
You complain about the fighting and bickering. Fine.
But then you say, “The Bible has been changed and only certain people have access to the REAL WRITINGS.”
So everyone should just accept what YOU say?
You can air your opinions but when others do the same,they are “fighting and bickering”? Dont be a hypocrite.
Others are free to argue with you and say your opinions are baseless. Which they are.
For example, you said only certain people have access to the real writings.
Give me just one name of these certain people and the evidence for that.
My dear friend As in the article it is said that the Quran was written by our prophet Mohammad peace be upon him but for your kind information he was illiterate and didn’t know how to write therefore it was given to him by god. If you think Quran is a lie there is information about relativity 100 of years before einstien and any information that a just got discovered. So without any proof that Islam is a false religion don’t accuse.
Sad that yu muslims will be in a place where all the non believers will be..your religion and every religion was formed by those angels y’all preach about in Islam,yes angels are real,but for a nation that will b against his brother’s hand until the end of time starting with the birth and promises of Ishmael for y’all to continue to over ride the longest running name on this planet,I pray for your nation!!ima hit all yu muslims and y’all beliefs with a question that will answer all confusion!!what time is it?what day and year it is?and wen is your birthday?wen yu get done answering,just kno all and each and one of y’all life frame is based and acquired around the name of Jesus..not Mohammed,buhda,Jehovah witnesses,Catholic or any other religion formed for a form of control starting in low income communities up to big dollar making communities
In GOD’S WORD He tells us that this type of thing will only bring strife and that is not of Him like someone mentioned earlier it’s all about Love and GOD IS LOVE also His word will be the same yesterday today and forever and NONE of us will be able to change it because He obviously gave and made it available to all and we have the choice to choose Him! We know right from wrong and the untamed tongue is what we need to be careful of along with our actions and just live by example and love on one another and do our part that GOD has us here for JESUS LOVES YOU and so do I
Its simple,the Bible is the TRUTH,look at it this way….there are works that the Holy Spirit(mentioned and given by Jesus in the Bible) still performs to this day.A good example is how ordinary people can see visions of future things and they come to pass OR how terminal diseases are healed by prayer through the name of Jesus Christ.
I recently asked a muslim friend of mine to explain how all this is possible and they have not replied me to date
Are you going to leave your muslim friend behind for that? We muslims know what to choose, we muslims know that Jesus was a prophet, defintly not the first prophet, not the son of god. The bible has the words of many people, the quran has ONLY the words of god. There was prohpets before the bible came. And when Jesus died people were still worshipping fake gods made out of stone. But, when Mohammed came, all of that stopped, everyone stopped worshipping statues and followed islam. Islam was first, god gave choices to the people alive on earth when god created the universe, he wanted them to worship him and take the religion islam, but all of them said no, they didn’t want to worship him and all of them had different opinions and went. That is why christianity was used first before islam.
And not only that, Adam, the father of humanity, was a muslim.