I was reading today about King Solomon in 2 Chronicles 2. Yes, Nabi Sulaiman, whom our friends say was a Muslim prophet.
In this passage, Solomon is preparing to build a Temple to honor the Name of the Lord (Yahweh). (2 Chr 2:1). Since you say Sulaiman was a Muslim, this temple was for Allah, correct?
Here’s how Solomon described the Temple for God would be:
“It will be a place set apart to burn fragrant incense before Him, to display the special sacrificial bread, and to sacrifice burnt offerings each morning and evening, on the Sabbaths….He has commanded Israel to do these things forever.” (2 Chr 2:4)
Does this describe Islam? Was this how Sulaiman, the Muslim prophet, practiced Islam? What is the significance of the sacrificial bread or the daily burnt offerings or the Sabbath in Islam? Was all this done for Allah? That does not sound like Islam to me. If it was, when did Allah decide to change the requirements of your religion? Not only that. He commanded Israel to do this forever.
To answer this, Muslims claim that the Jews have been abandoned in favor of Arabs.
In 1 Kings 6:11-13, The LORD Yahweh speaks directly to Solomon (not through an intermediary or angel) and He says to Solomon, “I will never abandon My people Israel.” Why would Allah speak such a message to a Muslim prophet directly? And then 1600 years later, speak indirectly to another Muslim prophet that all Jews are pigs. God said He would NEVER abandon Israel. But He changed His mind?
Let’s look further…
Here is how Solomon prayed.
“Then Solomon stood before the altar of the Lord in front of the entire community of Israel. He LIFTED his hands toward heaven, and he prayed, (1 Kings 8:22-23). Also, in verse 54, it says Solomon…KNEELED with his hands RAISED toward heaven.
Is this how Muslims pray? Sulaiman apparently kneeled down and lifted his hands toward heaven when he prayed. Did Allah change the way Muslims pray today? When? Can you show in the Quran where He gave Muslims a new way to pray from the time of Sulaiman?
And finally, this is the scenario of the worship that took place in the Temple of Solomon.
“And the Levites who were musicians—Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun, and all their sons and brothers—were dressed in fine linen robes and stood at the east side of the altar playing cymbals, lyres, and harps. They were joined by 120 priests who were playing trumpets. The trumpeters and singers performed together in unison to praise and give thanks to the Lord. Accompanied by trumpets, cymbals, and other instruments, they raised their voices and praised the Lord with these words: “He is good! His faithful love endures forever!” (2 Chr 5:12-13)
Are these “Muslims” worshipping Allah? Musicians, musical instruments, singers? Is this how you worship Allah today in your mosques? By singing and by using musical instruments? When did Allah give new instructions to abandon singing and music during worship?
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A muslim is someone who believes and submits to the 1 God of the heavens and earth, the God of Abraham, Moses, Issac, Jesus and Solomon. So yes he was what we call today a “muslim” and so was every other prophet peace be upon them. God is different in many languages like any other word but the meaning is the same.
All the prophets submitted to one God. That is true.
Just because the Arabic language invents a word for “submit”, i.e. “muslim”, it is deceptive to say that the all the prophets were muslims.
Muslim are adherents of the religion called Islam. None of the prophets followed islam.
Muhammad himself claimed that he was the first muslim.
Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only). And I am commanded to be the first of those who are muslims (surrender unto Him). 39:11-12
The thing that must be understood is, from Prophet Adam to Prophet Sulaiman and Prophet Isa they all worshiped the same god, namely Allah, but with different laws / procedures / Shari’a at that time. Every human being who has deviated from the teachings of Allah as taught from the previous prophets, then Allah sent a prophet / apostle to direct them back to the right path, through books such as the Psalms, Torah and Gospel and the completion is the Qur’an. In every book, there must be an “update” according to the era, including how to worship, halal things become haram or vice versa, including the name of the Islamic Religion given by Allah in the Koran. People like Jew and Nasrani are not names of religions, but they are names for adherents / people.
Hello,
You have portrayed your god to be one who is fickle-minded, erratic and unstable. Do you believe that God is like an OS that needs to keep updating?
How can something haram become halal?
How can a true prophet of God contradict any earlier revelations?
If that is the case, anyone can create a religion for their own selfish gains and claim that God is “updating”.
I believe this is exactly what Muhammad did with Islam.
In my article I used the example of song and music in worship of God. The Jews practised it for thousands of years. So do Christians today.
So how and why did song and music suddenly become haram in Muhammad’s time? When did Allah supposedly forbade it in the Quran?
You mentioned Psalms. Are you aware that Psalms means songs? The entire book is a book of songs! Did Allah reveal songs?
Yes, all the ancient prophets did worship the one true God. But this God wasn’t the fickle-minded, erratic, unstable god that Muhammad began following in the 7th century AD.
Do you believe all good comes from God? if yes then you believe than morality or any law God presents to us is for our benefit. Prophets had different laws from different people, Moses was given the staff because egyptians at the time used to believe in magic and so, there were different laws for the people. I’m not God and i’m not in any authority to question why or why not he does these. i submit to whatever he has made halal and haram
music is only haram when it’s played by instruments, vocals are completely halal. like how David pbuh had the most beautiful voice that everyone around him used to sing with him. i can tell you haven’t read the quran or have any knowledge on Mohammed pbuh so i would recommend reading it at least once with an open mind
Kwewee,
You’re claiming that Allah kept changing the laws and his mind with different generation of prophets. Where do you get this idea from?
This is what a cult leader would do. Make up “new laws” that would benefit himself and claim it is from God.
You used the example of Moses and said he was given a staff. Yes, but this has nothing to do with changing the laws.
The Torah remained the Law. ALL the true prophets submitted to the Torah, while Muhammad made up his own laws. He didn’t even know what the Torah said.
You mentioned David. True, David sang praises to God. He was also a musician who played the harp. In fact, the entire Psalms are songs.
The Psalms say:
Praise Him with the sound of the horn;
praise Him with the harp and lyre.
Praise Him with tambourine and dancing;
praise Him with strings and flute.
Praise Him with clashing cymbals;
praise Him with resounding cymbals.
(see Psalm 150)
Why did musical instruments become haram in Islam? When did Allah change his mind making halal musical instruments suddenly haram? What happened?
We can go back to the time of Moses in Exodus 15 and we see Miriam and all the women playing tambourines and dancing in worship. For thousands of years, music and song have been used in worship of the true God.
And suddenly in the 6th century in Arabia, Muhammad showed up and musical instruments became haram? Why? Muhamamd believed in magic and superstitions and much of islam is based on Muhammad’s superstitions.
For example, your prophet said that bells are the musical instruments of satan and angels do not accompany travellers who have a bell or a dog with them. Muhammad probably had a phobias of dog and so he commanded dogs to be killed, especially black dogs which he claimed is satan, etc. etc. Your religion is a farce built around Muhammad and his likes and dislikes. His likes became what is halal, like he could have any women he wanted to marry and his dislikes became haram like dogs and musical instruments.
You start saying fickle-minded, unstable God, who are you to judge what God does or does not. Why does he need to give any explanation for what he did since you are just a speck of dust in the entire vast of existence. You keep mentioning Mohammed PUBH do this and that, he is our last prophet and there is no prophet sent after him and revelations are always sent upon prophets for different eras, which for Islam, last revelation was send upon Prophet Mohammed PUBH. Every era has its own way of approach as human evolves and its way different that now so how can you expect to have one ruling permanently when people are living up to the standards of their times.
If the God ruling should be permanent since human life created then world will has only one religion with no prophets existence and no requirement of further prophets, no jews no Christians no hindus or buddhist. Even Jews have 40 prophets in their Torah and Muslims have too.
About Christians, they do not have one because a prophet was sent to them which they conveniently turned him into their God so yeh quite unsalvageable. Also u said Islam was created for one’s benefit, tell me how Bible and Torah were changed for a group to benefit or make it look good giving people false hope and manipulate for social and political agendas in the western world.
We have rulings regarding music and we have two types of Haram as well which I don’t think your brain could comprehend that!
Islam is perfect but we humans are not. So muslims follow sunnah which is the way of life even for eating, sleeping, body movement, modesty etc to advanced psychological and spiritual thinking. So those who want to live like animals without disciplines and be advanced at the same time, may God be with them!
No matter what arguments or insult thrown upon Muslims, we sure feel bad for those people thinking they are immortal or world will exist forever for their generation, astraying from truth is simply a waste of soul !!!
Sadiya,
Your comment is filled with fallacies and dismissive tactics.
1. You said: Who are you to judge what God does or does not?
I am asking questions which you obviously have no answers for. Islam cannot stand being questioned or criticized.
2. You said: “Revelations are sent upon prophets for different eras… how can you expect to have one ruling permanently?”
You have just destroyed Islam and shot Muhammad for claiming that Islam is the permanent ruling.
3. “If God’s ruling should be permanent, then the world would have only one religion with no prophets…”
False dichotomy. The existence of multiple religions and prophets does not necessarily imply that God’s ruling should not be permanent.
There can be false prophets like Muhammad, MirzaGhulam Ahmad, Joseph Smith, Sai Baba etc that make up their own rulings.
4. “Christians turned their prophet into God, thus are unsalvageable…”
This is a strawman fallacy. Christians didnt turn their prophet into God. If you don’t know what we believe, study more. Ask questions.
Don’t just swallow what your imams feed you with.
5. “Islam is perfect, but humans are not…”
This is an example of “No true scotsman” fallacy. You avoid engaging with legitimate issues and blind to what your religion actually teaches. The terrorists are the true Muslims.
6. “So muslims follow sunnah which is the way of life…”
Yes, it’s a mind-controlling cult filled with silly superstitions and the phobias of a bewitched man who proclaimed himself a prophet.
Learn more: https://www.faithbrowser.com/muhammad-the-superstitious-prophet/
Hi, Peter here, just to add, ever since I was a small kid I believed in God. HE started talking to me ( and I to HIM as we exchanged mutual conversations) when I was 1 & 1/2. Growing up I would see this shine in, on, around and coming off of me. My family saw this light on me as well. But no one could ever tell me of what it was. I just knew it was God and I would just talk to HIM. ( there’s of recent years an understanding of a dream I used to have nearly every single night for years sometimes 2 to 3 times a night which I now know as the great I AM presence, also referring to Exodus 3:13-15 and Son of the Father Jesus, amen ( lots of stuff has happened and still does, this years end I turn 64) It was just before my 25th birthday on the 17th August 1985. That I was involved in an horrific motorcycle accident where I was dead at, ( my pillion passenger heard one attending paramedic say to the other “that he is dead”) . Long story short I wasn’t expected to live in the hospital, they only did what they had to ( for the 1st -24 to 48hours as anything extra would have been a waste of my death was permanent) I was not on any sort of pain killers or suppressants as they were check for my immediate responses for treatment direction. Because of my injuries I had no idea who had just spoken or visited me from one second to the next. I do remember because no one was telling me what was happening ( they probably were, but I had no actual memory of it) so I opened a doctors letter and read ( it was mine it had my name/concerning me so it was my property) and read 1st hand, that I was dead at the accident, was real touch and go for that period of time I made mention, real touch and go also and “if I survived I probably wouldn’t amount to much”. Also that I was in a comma for the 1st 2 weeks.
During that time I do remember ( in detail) see heaven from a distance, and just knowing and I still remember that pain to this day of being separated from God. Of know I wasn’t and couldn’t go in. It took the Holy Spirit 25 years to gentle come on me to give me understanding of why I didn’t go. I wanted to go to heaven. This was just before as I was preparing to go as an invited guest to PNG July 2011. Which I had to speak about over there, which is I didn’t go because I didn’t have the ticket in. Even though I knew and knew of God and we would speak, I wasn’t saved by GOD through the only door back and that’s Jesus Christ. Of recent days info has crossed my path, that Muslims include Jacob as their follow on from Ishmael, he is not even in under that side of the ancestral lineage. He falls under Isaac ( Genesis 16:1-16 & Genesis 17:1-27). There is no real clear ( it remains in very much in a cloud of uncertainty) of the direct ancestral lineage from Ishmael to Muhammad. AND in the Holy Christian Bible it states about blasphemy of Jesus Christ, Father GOD ( even though it’s no ok) BUT the thing that would not be forgiven is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit ( which means comforter companion teacher same as Jesus and helper) of which after Jesus was crucified died rose from the dead and went to heaven. He asked HIS Father to send the Holy Spirit to earth. The “Helper” that Jesus spoke of Muhammad claims to be HIM. ( Luke 16:1-31) I have knowledge of hell and have seen heaven, and people don’t really want to know. God our ( everyone’s John 3:16-17-18) Jesus said when HE comes again will HE find faith? That faith is in HIS free gift to return to HIS original plan for man ( species of both male and female) to live forever together with HIM in HIS place called glory for eternity. Thank U Gbu L Peter
The religion of Solomon was Judaism, the monotheistic religion of the ancient Hebrews. However, as related in the first book of Kings, Solomon had many foreign women among his wives. “His wives turned his heart after other gods” (1 Kings 11:4, NIV), and thus he built shrines to the gods of their religions.
It’s their stupid belief. Solomon was a Jew LOL.
Quran is the only book preserved on its original form from 1400 years ago, every other scripture including Bible has been tampered and changed. Can you prove it from the Bible that Sulaiman (peace be upon him) was a jew? Infact the people of Israel were all Muslims. But after Moses (peace be upon him) they faltered and took these Prophets as his or son of god. Prophet Sulaiman prayed to one god. The prayer you are describing from your scripture cannot be trusted as it might have been changed just like many other versions of Bible have. No use fighting, better be united for the sake of humanity. And like Quran says, “There is no compulsion in religion” and “To you your religion, to me my religion”. Everything will be crystal clear once or eyes are closed after death. Hope none of us experience that regret after death of obeying the false God or neglecting his commandments. And What a regret that will be.
Rshdz,
You said, “Can you prove it from the Bible that Sulaiman (peace be upon him) was a jew?”
But then, a couple of sentences later you said, “..your scripture cannot be trusted..”
So, why do you ask for proof from the Bible if you’re not going to accept it anyway?
Dont be a hypocrite.
Re-read my article. I made it clear that Solomon was not a follower of Islam.
He was a Jew who practised Jewish customs and Jewish worship.
He is a Muslim since the literal meaning is “one who surrenders to God” and if was to ask you , “did solomon surrender himself to god ? “ your answer would be yes.
Zidane k,
This is called the fallacy of equivocation.
A Fallacy of Equivocation happens when a word, phrase, or sentence is used deliberately to confuse, deceive, or mislead by sounding like it’s saying one thing but actually saying something else.
A good example is: ==>“A MUSLIM (noun) is one who submits to God. Since all prophets submitted/muslim (verb) to God, therefore all prophets are Muslims.”
(Notice how the word “muslim” is used as a noun in the first instance and then used as verb in the second. It’s like arguing: A dress is a woman’s garment. Since Mr Abu DRESSED (verb) himself therefore it means he wore a dress (noun)!)
The same word can have two meanings and thus open to abuse to manipulating in misunderstanding the meaning.
If I say, “Am I getting under your skin?”, you should not interpret it as meaning that I am asking if I am getting into your epidermis and subcutaneous tissue!”
take arguments not from the Al-Quran and say whatever you like. After all, the way Muslims pray is different before and now. The order of prayer was revealed and made obligatory after the events of Isra’ and Mi’raj. how to pray is learned according to the hadith and sunnah and.DON’T USE BOOKS OF OTHER RELIGION TO DETERMINATE ISLAM
The Quran plucks people and events from the Bible and makes up false narratives about them. Solomon was a Jew, King of Israel. He never heard or knew anything about Islam. Yet you Muslims have hijacked Solomon and all the true prophets in order to create your religion and give it credence. None of the true prophets had anything to do with Islam or the Allah of the kaabah. Islam was invented by Muhammad so that he could marry any woman he wanted and get 20% of the booty. Muhamamd used the names of the true prophets to fool the pagans and Jews and Christians of Arab.
You said Muslims prayed differently before and now. OK. Show me how Muslims prayed before and now according to your BOOKS.
Is there anything about how to pray in Allah’s book? Nothing. Allah failed to tell you how to pray or even how may times to pray in his “eternal” book but he told Muhammad he can marry any woman he desired.
Read, recite and memorise 33:50
I get if you have trouble understanding something yourself. But projecting your weak understanding to be truth just amplifies your weakness further. There’s a reason we do not say Mohammadan.
Islam = Submission to the one true God
Muslim = One who practices Islam
Prophet = Individual with whom God had contact through his angels
The first 2 are literally how Arabic constructs words.
Now tell me what would say the religion of the Prophet Adam was?
Joshua,
Mohamedan is an archaic term. You USED to be called Mohamedan. Look it up.
Islam means submission.
Muslim means one who submits.
Just because the true prophets submitted to God, does not make them followers of Islam.
This is called the fallacy of equivocation.
Let me just say this:
“A slave submitting to his slavemaster in fear is not the same as a son submitting to his father in love.“
Allah is your slavemaster. He is Father to no one.
As for your question on Adam’s religion.
Tell me which prophet ever talked about religion. No one.
The entire Bible is about relationship with God, not religion.
God does not want your religion. God wants a relationship.
Such a relationship is not found in Islam.
Hi Peter here, the word religion means to be bound. God Jesus made this known to me religion is the mess that man has made and has absolutely nothing to do with GOD’s truth of love and forgiveness. As I made mention of me dying and seeing heaven, So, when and if those have gone in through the only door back to the Father, what religion will they be? There’s a reason why they call it religious dogma. Bound and like a dog clamped down on a bone they will never release their bite on their limited view. Which leads to this as God Jesus made known to me, How do U know when U R deceived? U don’t! That’s what being deceived is all about. Because U R deceived. Even if they themselves ( who never started out that way) but ended up being the ones through the arrogance of their own selves too proud in their flesh to see and acknowledge simple reasoning interpretations hence by then understanding. It’s not until after one comes out of the deception, that their eyes then R opened eyes able to see and ears willing to hear. And humbled before each other which is also to treat others as and with respect. Because the Holy Christian Bible is the word of GOD, then all that read or hear it the word then would be prophets of GOD ( by that understanding of the Muslim guy) because it is the prophetic word of GOD the same yesterday today and forever. ABOUT the Quran not changing for 1400 years and there being so many different translations interpretations of the Christian Bible. This concerned me greatly as well, ( Matthew 6:5-8) and what I got from God Lord King Jesus was this. Evil slippery slithery sneaky deceitful guy “doesn’t and has no need to change anything at all of what “it” already has”. BUT and it’s a really big but, “it” knows the power and might of GOD the Father and HIS word ( John 1:1) because at one time “it” was there in GOD’s place of glory when the word was 1st written. AND that when Jesus came to earth and was/is and will always be “the living word”. And trembles and shakes and runs and hides for “fear” of “it’s” being convicted. Just as the spirit of opposition attempts to hard at discrediting the word both old and especially New Testaments with concision of selective preferences of certain specific scriptures to then throw back at the Christians. Taking some especially out of the New Testament, using it so freely in the second breath while the 1st one was to deny the deity of Jesus. While not realising Jesus HIMSELF is the new agreement or New Testament with and between the Father and man, even those who don’t believe not only in HIM but on HIM. Thank U Gbu L Peter