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Why Did Uthman Burn Early Quran Manuscripts?

Why Did Uthman Burn Early Quran Manuscripts?

Why did Uthman need to burn the many original manuscripts of the Quran?

Because the many different manuscripts contained many discrepancies.
These different Qur’ans were a subject of study for early Islamic scholars. The Arabic librarian, Ibn Abi Ya’qub al-Nadim, made a famous catalogue of all the books in Arabic in the year 375 A.H./987 A.D that dealt with the topic of discrepancies in the different versions of the Quran existing then. He records seven books that dealt with this subject.

Books Composed about Discrepancies of the [Qur’anic] Manuscripts

  1. “The Discrepancies between the Manuscripts of the People of al-Madinah, al-Kufah, and al-Basrah” according to al-Kisa’i.
  2. Book of Khalaf, “Discrepancies of the Manuscripts”.
  3. “Discrepancies of the People of al-Kufah, al-Basrah, and Syria concerning the Manuscripts”, by al-Farra.
  4. “Discrepancies between the Manuscripts” by Abu Da’ud al-Sijistani.
  5. Book of al-Mada’ini about the discrepancies between the manuscripts and the compiling of the Qur’an.
  6. “Discrepancies between the Manuscripts of Syria, al-Hijaz, and al-Iraq”, by Ibn `Amir al-Yahsubi.
  7. Book of Muhammad ibn `Abd al-Rahman al-Isbahani about discrepancies of the manuscripts.
    (Al-Nadim, The Fihrist of al-Nadim – A Tenth Century survey of Muslim Culture, p. 79)

These books detail hundreds of discrepancies; for example: different numbers of surahs, surahs were arranged differently, different words for the same verse, etc.

Here are some specific references:
“Concerning the arrangement of the Qur’an in the manuscript of Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud, Al-Fadl ibn Shadhan said, “I found in a manuscript of `Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud the surahs of the Qur’an in accordance with the following (different) sequence … These are one hundred and ten surahs.” (Al-Nadim, p. 53)

This is saying that ibn Mas’ud’s Quran had 110 surahs!
Who is Ibn Mas’ud? He was one of the teachers that Muhammad had commanded Muslims to learn the Quran from.

Here is another one.

One of our reliable friends has informed us, saying that the composition of the surahs according to the reading of Ubayy ibn Ka’b is in a village called Qariyat al-Ansar, two parasangs from al-Basrah, where in his home Muhammad ibn Abd al-Malik al-Ansari showed us a Qur’anic manuscript, saying, “This is the copy of Ubayy which we have, handed down from our fathers.” I looked into it and ascertained the headings of the surahs, the endings of the revelations, and the numbers of verses. … one hundred and sixteen surahs. (Al-Nadim, pp. 58-61)”

This is saying that Ubayy ibn Ka’b’s Quran had 116 surahs!
Who is Ubayy ibn Ka’b? the hadiths tell us he was the best reciter of the Quran.

There were Qurans with 110 surahs. And there were Qurans with 116 surahs.  And there were Qurans with 114 surahs?  What are these additional surahs? Which ones should be in the Quran and which one should not be in the Quran?

Who should make the decision?

Muhammad?  He was dead.  Allah had been silent since Muhammad died.
Although Muhammad left behind the great teachers of the Quran like Ibn Mas’ud and Ubayy ibn Ka’b, the caliph, Uthman, chose to reject the Qurans of these teachers by burning them. Muhammad was no longer around to approve or disapprove of what he did.

No one knows if the genuine Quran was burnt by Uthman.

“Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people (Muslims) of Syria and the people of Iraq were waging war to conquer Armenia and Azarbaijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Syria and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur’an, so he said to ‘Uthman, “O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before.” So ‘Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, “Send us the manuscripts of the Qur’an so that we may compile the Qur’anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you.” Hafsa sent it to ‘Uthman. ‘Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, ‘Abdullah bin Az-Zubair, Said bin Al-As and ‘AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to REWRITE the manuscripts in perfect copies. ‘Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, “In case you DISAGREE (on discrepancies) with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur’an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur’an was revealed in their tongue.” They did so, and when they had written many copies, ‘Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. ‘Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur’anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.” (Sahih al-Bukhari: vol. 6, bk. 61, no. 510)

Can I Follow What Allah Said in Sura 5:47?

Can I Follow What Allah Said in Sura 5:47?

Muslims, are we supposed to believe what Allah says in the Quran or not? Do you believe the Quran?

I ask because of this ayah:

Surah 5:47
“Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers.”

Allah says we Christians are supposed to judge by the Gospel. Am I allowed to obey this verse?

But muslims claim that the Gospel has been lost to corruption.

So why did Allah tell us to judge by a Gospel that you say has been lost?

How can I obey Sura 5:47?

Did Allah not know it had been lost or that it was going to be lost?

How can you know something that Allah didn’t speak about when he wrote the Quran?
If you say the Gospel was lost later, then you are still insulting Allah’s words in 5:47 by claiming that the words your God spoke is obsolete and invalid today. His word has lost it’s relevance.

Things get just as bad because of this ayah as well:

Surah 5:68

“Say O People of the Scripture! Ye have naught (of guidance) till ye observe the Torah and the Gospel and that which was revealed unto you from your Lord. That which is revealed unto thee (Muhammad) from thy Lord is certain to increase the contumacy and disbelief of many of them. But grieve not for the disbelieving folk.”

Are Christians allowed to follow Sura 5:68?

So according to Muslims, we Jews and Christians cannot find guidance as prescribed by 5:68 because the Torah and the Gospel is lost.

But that’s not what Allah says here.  You are defying His words. He says we are to find guidance in the Torah and Gospel. So are we supposed to believe the Quran or not?

Is Sura 5:68 also obsolete and invalid? How much more of the Quran have you muslims declared obsolete and invalid when Allah never said any such thing.

Muslims believe Allah wrote the Book in eternity, but He could not preserve it.  How much more of insults will Allah take from the Muslims?

“The same Bible Muhammad would have seen (if he ever did) is in both (1) The Vatican (Codex Vaticanus) and (2) British Museum (Codex Sinaticus). It is all there, including Jesus dying on the cross as atonement for our sins. And, His resurrection, and ascension into heaven – in front of many witnesses. The New Testament is preserved in almost perfect condition in these two Greek texts which both predate Muhammad and Islam by over 200 years. The Christian Bible predates Muhammad and Islam by more than 575 years. The Jewish Torah predates Muhammad and Islam by 1,000 – 3,000 years. Muhammad said for Muslims to read the Bible for “Guidance and Light.” For Islam to say they are corrupted, then is to call Muhammad a liar for recommending it.” – Steve Perez

Has The Bible Been Changed?

Has The Bible Been Changed?

  Muslims think the Bible has been changed.

“How could there be any alteration in the Book whose words’ sharpness has reached a great level of circulation in the East and in the West? … For no change can occur in a book that is well circulated among men. Every wise man can see that the alteration of the Bible was impossible for it was well circulated among men of different faith and backgrounds.”     Al-Razi (865 – 925 AD)

So are you wise or foolish?

When Muslims point to differences in Biblical text, they are usually looking at different translations.

First of all, Christians already know about this. Scholars have studied it for decades. It’s a field of study called “Textual Criticism”.

We know there are “variations” and it is a minor issue that does not change God’s message in the Bible. Variations do not prove that the Bible is not authentic. Scholars agree that today’s Bible presents the same message as in the manuscripts found in the 2nd & 3rd century AD, hundreds of years before Muhammad was born. (The Quran affirms the People of the Book and their scripture in the 7th century AD; by 5th century, the Bible was already distributed worldwide).

The issue that really troubles you Muslims is that you are really comparing the Quran and the Bible. Since you believe the Quran is unchanged, so when you see this issue of variation in a translation of the Bible, you think this is evidence that the Bible is changed. Don’t force your concept of scripture on to the Bible. We believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God. Translations are made by men and men are not perfect.

Quran too has many translations too. And there are many variations and differences and even different meanings in the Yusof Ali version of the Quran, compared to Pickthall’s version, compared to Sahih International’s version, compared to Arberry’s version…etc?

Do you see what I mean? Does it mean these are fake Qurans that have been changed? Or are they just different translations?

Through careful scholarly studies of literally thousands of ancient Bible manuscripts, we can be sure that our Bible is proven reliable and authentic. Quran has not gone though such a thorough research. Firstly because of lack of manuscripts. Many manuscripts that had variations had been burnt by Uthman. We can’t even compare your different manuscripts and their variations because Uthman got rid of all the damning evidence!

Secondly, while thousands of Bible manuscripts have been available for any scholar, whether Christian, Muslim or Atheist, to research and study for decades, the few known Quranic manuscripts discovered is kept under tight security and rarely allowed to be studied. Why? Is it because the Quran manuscripts like Topkapi & Samarkand differs from today’s Quran?

One of the most famous Quranic manuscripts is the Sanaa manuscript of Yemen. But it contains only 43 surahs! What happened to the other 71 surahs? Does it mean they were added later?

A German scholar and Quran authority, Gerd Puin, had been commissioned by Yemen to do the study and he has reported that there are numerous variations, and even changes of text, as in erased and a different text re-written on top of it, called palimpsests. Very serious consequences for the authenticity of the Quran that all Muslims believed to be preserved.

Am I making this up? Look it up for yourself. Search for Sanna manuscript or Gerd Puin.

The Bible has gone though even more rigorous research decades ago and came out clean. The worst you can point to are these variations in translations which as I said are minor issues.

If you think these are problems with the Bible, you have bigger problems with the quran. Scholars can attest to this. Look up Dr. Mustafa (now Dr. Mark Gabriel) – former Muslim Imam and Ex-Professor in Al Azhar University, Cairo and Dr. Muhammed Rahoumy (now Dr. Samuel Paul) – former Dean in Al Azhar Islamic University.

What Version Is Your Quran?

What Version Is Your Quran?

Muslims believe that Quran is unchanged and there are no variant versions.

This is not true. There are many versions of the Arabic Quran.

The 2 most popular versions are the Hafs and Warsh. (Others are Qalun, Al-Duri, Al-Bazzi, etc)

Is yours a Hafs or Warsh version?

Look at the first verse of Sura al-Fatihah. If there is a number “1” after the Bismillah verse, then you have the Hafs version.
If there is no “1”, you have the Warsh version.

Did you know the the official version of the Quran was only finalized in 1924 in Cairo, Egypt? The Quran was only authorized officially in 1985 in Saudi Arabia.

Scholars know that there are several versions of the Quran, but the average Muslim does not. Why?

The few knowledgable muslims who are aware of the existence of these different versions will say there are very minor differences, mainly vocal variations.

Again this is not true.

Here are a couple of examples of text variants that can be found in the Arabic Hafs and Warsh that show that the quranic text and meaning itself has been altered!

2:125 in Hafs is وَاتَّخِذوْا “WatakhIzu” (You shall take) / In Warsh it is وَاتَّخَذوْا “WatakhAzu” (They have taken/made).
In 2:125 One version gives a command, while the other states a historical observation.

Another one:

3:146 in Hafs is قاتل “Qatal” (Fought) / In Warsh it is ُقتل “Qutil” (Were Killed).

In 3:146 the difference is between a prophet and those with him being killed, while in the other the difference only means that they fought by his side.

There’s more: Look up 2:85, 15:8, 21:4, 33:68, 42:30, 48:17 in both these versions and see for yourself.

In fact, if you study futher, you will find that number of verses in Hafs is 6236, while Warsh has only 6214 verses (other versions show 6616, 6217, 6204 verses, etc ).

Were you aware of this? Probably not. Why not?

Which is the right version? Hafs or Warsh?

Is it the Hafs or Warsh that is preserved in the eternal tablets with Allah?

Allah said that He will preserve his words. (Sura 15:9)

The 4 Great Quran Teachers

The 4 Great Quran Teachers

While Muhammad was alive, he chose 4 of his closest sahabas and entrusted the recitation of the Quran to them.

Muhammad commanded all his followers to learn the Quran from them.
The four chosen by the prophet were specifically:
1. Abdulla Ibn Mas’ud
2. Salim (a freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa)
3. Mu’adh bin Jabal
4. Ubay bin Ka’b. (Sahih Bukhari 6.61.521)

Years after Muhammad died, Abu Bakr, the first caliph decided to compile the Quran, fearing it would be lost.

Did Abu Bakr consult any one of the 4 men that Muhammad personally chose? NO.
Abu Bakr instructed Zaid Ibn Thabit, who was a scribe, to do the job.

Did Zaid consult or request help from any one of the 4 men that Muhammad chose? NO.

Were the 4 great early quran teachers UPSET that they were ignored and rejected? YES! They were FURIOUS!

They already had their own Quran codices.

After Zaid ibn Thabit finished compiling the first official Quran without input from the four….

The 2nd caliph, Umar, described the Quran: “Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Quran, for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Quran has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available’” (As-Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, page 72)

In Sahih Bukhari 6.61.527 – “Ubayy was the best reciter yet we leave out some of what he recites.”

By the time the 3rd caliph, Uthman, came to power, there were many versions floating around. The books of the 4 great teachers and other hafiz had spread throughout the empire and used widely and gained popularity.

Due to this confusion, the 3rd Caliph Uthman instructed Zaid ibn Thabit to EDIT his Quran again, which he had compiled years earlier under Abu Bakr. The purpose was to come up with a standard and final official version for correct recitation.

Once that was done, Uthman ordered the burning of the rest of the versions including those of the 4 great teachers personally hand-picked by Muhammad. Sadly, Muhammad was no longer around to disapprove of the situation.

Abdulla Ibn Masud gave a passionate speech as Uthman’s henchmen were burning his Quran, tearfully declaring that he knew the Quran better than anyone else..

“By Allah other than Whom none has the right to be worshipped! There is no Sura revealed in Allah’s Book but I know at what place it was revealed; and there is no verse revealed in Allah’s Book but I know about whom it was revealed. And if I know that there is somebody who knows Allah’s Book better than I, and he is at a place that camels can reach, I would go to him.”

Authors note: The more I read about the sahaba, Ibn Masud, the more I am convinced that it was his Quran that was the true and genuine one. Unfortunately, this Quran is no longer in existence today. Thanks to Uthman.

Do Old Quran Manuscripts Match The Quran?

Do Old Quran Manuscripts Match The Quran?

Why do muslims think that the Quran has been perfectly preserved? Because that is what they have been told. Have you bothered to check for yourselves if this is true?

Well, let’s put it to the test. Prove it. Bring your oldest manuscript and let’s compare it with the present quran and see if it is the same.

One of the most important findings is the Sana’a manuscript in 1972, which carbon-dating puts the origin of some of the parchments to 645–690 CE, while calligraphic dating has pointed to their origin in 710–715 AD.making them, perhaps the oldest Quran in existence.

sanaa

The study of these documents were undertaken by Gerd R. Puin of Saarland University, Germany. Puin is a renowned specialist on Arabic calligraphy and Quranic paleography. For more than 10 years he extensively examined these parchment fragments.

What did he find?

Puin, after extensively studying these manuscripts, came to the conclusion that the text is actually an evolving text rather than simply the word of God as revealed in its entirety to Muhammad (Warraq, 2002, p. 109).

…disturbingly at odds with the existing form. There are unconventional verse ordering, small but significant textual variations, different orthography (spelling) and different artistic embellishment (decoration)…

Puin even concluded (cited Taher, 2000) that

“It is not one single work that has survived unchanged through the centuries. It may include stories that were written before the prophet Mohammed began his ministry and which have subsequently been rewritten”.

Puin’s findings also confirm Wansbrough’s assumption on the Quranic text. In the 1970s, Wansbrough concluded that the Quran evolved only gradually in the seventh and eighth centuries after a long period of oral transmissions

Said Puin, “My idea is that the Quran is a kind of cocktail of texts that were not all understood even at the time of Muhammad. Many of them may even be a hundred years older than Islam itself. The Quran claims for itself that it is ‘mubeen’, or clear. But [contrary to popular belief] if you look at it, you will notice that every fifth sentence or so simply does not make sense…the fact is that a fifth of the Quranic text is just incomprehensible. If the Quran is not comprehensible, if it can’t even be understood in Arabic, then it’s not translatable into any language. That is why Muslims are afraid. Since the Quran claims repeatedly to be clear but is not—there is an obvious and serious contradiction. Something else must be going on”.

 

The extraordinary discovery of Puin had fascinated Andrew Rippin, a Professor of religious studies and a leading expert on Quranic studies. Rippin (cited Warraq, 2002, p. 110) concluded, “Their variant readings and verse orders are all very significant. Everybody agrees on that.

Warraq (1998, p. 14) has the same view as Rippin, “Muslim scholars of the early years of Islam were far more flexible in their position, realizing that parts of the Quran was lost, perverted and that there were many thousand variants which made it impossible to talk of ‘the’ Quran”.

There is another proof that Quranic messages were distorted in the early days of Islam and nothing like ‘The’ Quran does exist any more. Inscriptions of several Quranic verses are decorated on the Dome of Rock of Jerusalem, which is most probably the first Islamic monument meant to be a major artistic achievement, built in 691 CE (Whelan, 1998, p. 1–14). These inscriptions significantly differ from the present standard text (Warraq, 2000, p. 34).

Cook and Crone (1977, p. 18) concluded that “[The Quran] strikingly lacking in overall structure, frequently obscure and inconsequential in both language and content perfunctory in its liking of disparate materials and given to the repetition of whole passages in variant versions. On this basis, it can be argued that the book is the product of a belated and imperfect editing of materials from a plurality of traditions.” Crone (cited Warraq, 1998, p. 33) wrote elsewhere that “The Quran has generated masses of spurious information”.

So much for “the perfect, timeless, and unchanging Word of God”. This proves that the Quran has been distorted, perverted, revised, modified and corrected, and textual alterations had taken place over the years purely by human hands.

Versions Of The Quran

Versions Of The Quran

Muslims believe that the Quran is unchanged and there are no variants in their scripture. We are told that all Muslims all over the world use the one and the same Quran.

Is this true?

Walk into your local Islamic bookshop and ask what versions of the Quran they sell.

 

This online books store, has 13 versions of the Quran in Arabic.

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This bookshop in Jordan has over 20 Arabic versions of the Quran for sale.

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Muslims say these are not different versions.  We need to know there are 7 ahrufs, and  qira’at, different ways of reciting.  There are very minor differences, mainly vocal variations; slight differences in the way the verses are recited.

Some of these are  Qalun, Al-Duri, Khalaf, etc. The two most widely used versions in existence today are the Hafs and Warsh versions.

What version do you use? Is yours a Hafs or Warsh version?

Here’s how you can tell…

Look at the first verse of Sura al-Fatihah. If there is a number “1” after the ‘Bismillah’ verse, then you have the Hafs version. If not, you have the Warsh version. Also, if you’re in Saudi Arabia, you’re using the Hafs. If you live in Morocco, you’re using the Warsh.

Do all these versions use the same Arabic words and text and carry the same meanings?

 

Here are a some examples of text variants that can be found in the different Arabic versions that show that the Quranic text and meaning itself has been altered!  You look at these and judge for yourselves.

 

Hafs vs AlSusi  – Different Pronouns Used!

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Grammatical Error in Hafs! Not in Ruh!

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Hafs vs alDuri: Different Words Used!

3

 

Hafs vs Warsh: Different Sentence Structure!

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Hafs vs alBazzi: Different Verbs Used!

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Hafs vs Warsh: Different Pronouns Used

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Why are there numerous variances?

Compare Sura 2:125 in Hafs with the Warsh.

Hafs has this: وَاتَّخِذوْا “WatakhIzu” (You shall take) BUT in Warsh it is وَاتَّخَذوْا “WatakhAzu” (They have taken/made).
The Hafs version gives a command, while Warsh states a historical observation.  Same verse but different words used and different meanings rendered. here are a few other differences found comparing Hafs and the Warsh.

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Do you know how many verses are there in the Quran? You will find that number of verses in Hafs is 6236, while Warsh has only 6214 verses.

Which one is the right version? Which one did Muhammad recite? Which one matches the eternal preserved tablets that is with Allah?

 

Interesting fact: Did you know the the official version of the Quran was only finalized in 1924 in Cairo, Egypt? It was only authorized officially as recently as 1985, in Saudi Arabia. Why did it take 1300 years for the world to finalize and authorize the Quran, if there has always been just the one and the same Quran all ver the world? Now you know why.

Allah said that he will preserve his word (Sura 15:9).  Did someone manage to change his words?

 

What Came First – Bible or Quran?

What Came First – Bible or Quran?

If tomorrow morning, I make a claim that an angel of God had appeared to me and told me to write a new holy book and to call it the final and ultimate scriptures for the whole world, would you accept what I say?

You’d laugh at me. You’d call me delusional.  You’d also shame me by asking for some form of proof or evidence, that an angel had appeared to me.  If I cannot offer any evidence, what would you call me? A lunatic and a liar?

But let’s say, you choose to give me the benefit of the doubt, and decide to examine my new scriptures, just to humor me. Then as you start reading my book, you find that it does not agree with the earlier revealed scripture, the Quran.

Would you accept that my book is the right one and reject your book? Of course not. You will challenge me to prove that my book is true!

What if I explain to you that the reason my scripture differs from the Quran is because the Quran has been corrupted? Would that be ridiculous!  Of course, it will not make sense at all for me to claim that!

I would have to prove that what is written in my scripture is true. And not make allegations that the Quran is false, and thus my book is true.

In other words, you would not judge your Quran based on what my new scripture says. Rather, you will judge my book based on what your Quran says!  If my book contradicts the earlier revelation of the Quran, then my book is wrong. As simple as that.

 

The Burden Of Proof

The Quran was written in 7th century AD by the recitations of a man in the desert who claimed an angelic being visited him.  I’m not saying it didn’t happen. I’m asking can anyone verify this visitation? There were no witnesses to what actually happened. And Muhammad did no miracles to prove what he was saying, like the prophets of old like Moses or Elijah.

Yet, he revealed a new scripture, the Quran, that contradicts the earlier revealed scriptures, the Bible.  The Bible was written between 1400 BC & 95 AD. By 400AD, hundreds of years before Muhammad, the Bible was already widely distributed throughout the known world at that time in multiple languages. And yet, Muslims claim that it is the Bible that has been corrupted instead of showing proof that what the Quran says is true. Muhammad himself never claimed that the earlier scriptures were corrupted or lost. In fact, he affirmed and praised them.

You cannot judge the Bible based on what the Quran says. Rather, you have to judge the Quran based on what the Bible says. Since Islam came many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Quran. If the Bible and the Quran contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Quran is the one in error until it proves itself. 

Can God Have A Son?

Can God Have A Son?

Muslims are disgusted at the thought of God having a Son.  Sadly, Muslims think this is what Christians believe ~ that Jesus was born because God was the Father and Mary was the mother. This is blasphemy, they cry.

Actually, it is we Christians who are disgusted that Muslims would even think or suggest this!

Muslims fail to understand that “Son of God” is a title, just like “Messiah” is a title.  Son-ship does not mean a biological relationship but a spiritual one. Son of God means ‘of the same essence’ or ‘of the same nature’ as God.

If I say, I am a son of my country, does it mean my country had sex and gave birth to me?  If we say, Gandhi was the father of India, does it mean Gandhi had to have sex with someone to produce India? In Ephesians, there is the phrase “sons of disobedience” referring to those who are allied with satan.  ‘Sons of disobedience’ simply means they are of the nature of disobedience.

Why are Muslims confused with the understanding of the word “Son”? There are two words in Arabic for “son”. One is “Ibn” ﺍﺑﻦ and the other is Walad ﻮﻟﺪ

‘Walad’ means a ‘physical son’ in the literal sense of the word, as in the biological product of a sexual union between a man and a woman.
“Ibn” can also mean son, but it can carry a more spiritual or metaphorical meaning.

So I could say. I’m a son (walad) of my dad and I’m a son (ibn) of my country.  There would be no confusion about what I mean.  Unfortunately, in English, there is only one word for son, while there are two in Arabic. Yet, it is the Muslims who are confused when reading the Bible and Quran.

 

In Matthew 16:16, Peter says to Jesus: “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” This same Bible verse in Arabic is: فَأجابَ سِمعانُ بُطرُسُ: «أنتَ هُوَ المَسِيحُ، ابْنُ اللهِ الحَيِّ.

What is the word used for Son here? it’s “Ibn” ﺍﺑﻦ . Not walad.
Let’s look at another one.

1 John 4:15: “If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God.”

In Arabic: وَكُلُّ مَنْ يَعتَرِفُ أنَّ يَسُوعَ هُوَ ابنُ اللهِ، فَإنَّ اللهَ يَثْبُتُ فِيهِ، وَهُوَ يَثْبُتُ فِي اللهِ.

What is the word used for Son here again? “Ibn” ﺍﺑﻦ

Whenever a reference is made to Jesus as the Son of God, it is always in this sense. Nothing else.

Read your Bibles in Arabic, and I challenge you to show me any reference where Jesus is said to be “walad” (biological son) of God. It’s always “ibn”. In other words, Jesus is Ibnu’llah, not Walad’ullah.
This is what Christians have always believed. This is what the Bible teaches. No Christian has ever thought or imagined that Jesus was the biological son of God, the result of some divine-human sexual intercourse.

But this is exactly what Muslims have tried to force on Christians insisting that this is what we believe! No, we don’t! Muslims have created their own straw man and have been attacking it for ages! And they don’t even realize it! This is a logical fallacy.

God is Spirit. A human is a physical being. God does not relate to humans the way a man and a woman do with each other in a sexual union.

In fact, the Bible says in Isaiah, 700 years before Mary was even born: “A virgin shall conceive and bear a child”. It says VIRGIN. When Mary conceived, she was a virgin. When she bore the child, she was still a virgin.

Nothing happened. So, please get your minds out of the gutter!:)
So where does a Muslim get this idea from, that Jesus is the biological son of God, if it is not from Christians and not from the Bible?
Let’s take a look at the Quran and see if we can get some help.

Turn to Surah 6:101:
To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.

بديع السماوات والأرض أنى يكون له ولد ولم تكن له صاحبة وخلق كل شيء وهو بكل شيء عليم
هو { بديع السماوات والأرض } مبدعهما من غير مثال سبق { أنَّى } كيف { يكون له ولد ولم تكن له صاحبة } زوجة { وخلق كلَّ شيء } من شأنه أن يخلق { وهو بكل شيء عليمٌ } .

Transliteration:
BadeeAAu assamawatiwal-ardi anna yakoonu lahu waladun walamtakun lahu sahibatun wakhalaqa kulla shay-in wahuwabikulli shay-in AAaleem

Do you see what word is used for son? It’s WALAD!  In other words, this verse is talking about a physical biological “son”.
Another one: Surah 39:4
Had Allah wished to take to Himself a son, He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.

لو أراد الله أن يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق ما يشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار

Transliteration
Law arada Allahu an yattakhithawaladan lastafa mimma yakhluqu mayashao subhanahu huwa Allahu alwahidualqahhar

Again, did you notice which word is used for son? WALAD! Not IBN!

No wonder Muslims think that when we talk about God’s Son, it must means a biological son of God because that is the word that the Quran uses!  But that’s never in the Bible!

The Quran is basically saying that God does not have or take a son as a result of any sexual union. AND WE CHRISTIANS AGREE 100%.
Here are more Quranic verses that uses the word “walad” when speaking about son.

Surah 19:35
It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, “Be”, and it is.

ما كان لله أن يتخذ من ولد سبحانه إذا قضى أمرا فإنما يقول له كن فيكون

Ma kana lillahi anyattakhitha min waladin subhanahu itha qadaamran fa-innama yaqoolu lahu kun fayakoon
Surah 43:81
Say: “If (Allah) Most Gracious had a son, I would be the first to worship.”

قل إن كان للرحمن ولد فأنا أول العابدين
قل إن كان للرحمن ولد } فرضاً { فأنا أول العابدين } للولد لكن ثبت أن لا ولد له تعالى فانتفت عبادته .

Qul in kana lirrahmaniwaladun faana awwalu alAAabideen
Surah 19:91
That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.
أن دعوا للرحمن ولدا
An daAAaw lirrahmaniwalada

My question is: Who has ever attributed a ‘WALAD’ to God?  Not Christians. Whoever said or wrote this verse was unaware that Christianity does not say that God has a ‘WALAD’.  So why are there such verses in the Quran?

 

What does all this mean?

If we look at all these verses in the Quran, and based on these verses, we can come to a few simple conclusions:

1. Allah does not have a son (walad; a physical, biological son)

2. If Allah wished to have a son (walad), he could. It is a possibility IF he wanted to. (43:81).

3. But if Allah wanted to have a son (walad), he would need a wife/consort. (6:101)

4. Since Allah does not have a wife/consort, therefore Allah does not have a son (walad). (6:101)

5. If Allah did have a wife or a consort, then allah would have sex with his wife/consort and produce a son (walad).

(Note: Am I being crude and vulgar? I don’t think so. We are talking about what Allah himself is saying when he refers to wife/consort & son (walad). How else is a son (walad) produced if it is not by sex? Is this the way an omnipotent creator thinks? The idea sound very man-made to me. It is obviously the thinking of a man’s mind that is spelled out in these verses.  A God who is real and all-powerful and all-knowing would not be discussing the need for a wife to produce a son.

The Quran denies that Allah has a “walad”. Fair enough.  However, where does the Quran deny the possibility of an “Ibn”. No where does the Quran say that Allah cannot have an “Ibn.”
In Surah 19:35, Allah says that he does not have son (walad) from sex because it is not befitting of his majesty. All he needs to say is “Be” and it is so. (Arabic: kun fayakun)

This verse is significant because it is said to be related to the birth of Jesus. (see also Sura 19:21). Is it true that God just said “kun fayakun” and Jesus was conceived and born?

That’s not what the Quran reports. Here’s what really went down that night.

The angel Jibreel came to Mary in the form of a human male. Sura 19:17

(side note: An angel takes the form of man. Can Allah do what an gel has the capability of doing? )

Back to our story. So the angel, who has taken the form of a man, now blows into the vagina of Mary. Yes, I said vagina. The arabic word used is “farj”. But the Quran’s translators, have toned it down using the word ‘garment/sleeves’ to “cover up”. The same story is repeated in Sura 66:12 and unmistakably, the word used is “nafakhna feehy” which means very clearly that ‘we blew into her organ/private parts/genitals’.

So that is how Jesus was conceived according, to the Quran. It was more than just “kun fayakun” as claimed.  How shocking and embarrassing it must have been for poor Mary. This young virgin who had never been with a man before and suddenly she’s confronted by a strange man. (The quran describes him as ‘well proportioned.) and he’s in front of her blowing into her!
Now we know why Muslims get so confused when we say Son of God.

Jesus did not become the Son of God when he was born of the virgin Mary. He was already the Son of God from the beginning, existing as the Word of God, before creation and before that Word became human. God is not Father because He produced a Son. He was already Father from the beginning, before creation.

So what does it mean when the Bible says Jesus is the Son of God? Ask a Christian and listen to them.

Sura 10:94 So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you.

Who Says The Quran Is Incomplete & Imperfect?

Who Says The Quran Is Incomplete & Imperfect?

Who says the Quran is incomplete and imperfect?

Well, see for yourself.

As-Suyuti, one of the most famous and revered commentators of the Quran, quotes ‘Umar al Khattab, the second Caliph , as saying:

“Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Quran, for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Quran has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available’” (As-Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, page 72)

 

Aisha, the favorite wife of the Prophet, says:

“During the time of the Prophet, the chapter of the Parties used to be two hundred verses when read. When Uthman edited the copies of the Quran, only the current (verses) were recorded” .

Notice Aishah says that Uthman EDITED the Quran.  What did he do to Allah’s words? Why is there a need to “EDIT”, if the Quran has always been perfect and unchanged? What was EDITED and what was not?

 

In Sahih Muslim 2286:”Abu Musa called 300 Basra reciters who were the best and they said:

“We used to recite a surah but we have forgotten it.”

The best reciters forgot an entire surah?

 

In Sahih Bukhari 6.61.527

“Ubayy was the best reciter yet we leave out some of what he recites.” 

Ubayy bin Ka’b, one of the great companions of Muhammad was the best reciter of the time but the Quran edited by Uthman apparently left out some of his recitations. What was left out?

Ubayy asked one of the Muslims, “How many verses in the chapter of the Parties?” He said, “Seventy-three verses.” He (Ubayy) told him, “It used to be almost equal to the chapter of the Cow (about 286 verses) and included the verse of the stoning”. The man asked, “What is the verse of the stoning?” He (Ubayy) said, “If an old man or woman committed adultery, stone them to death.”

Ubayy  was asking about Sura 33, Surah Al-Ahzab. In today’s Quran, this Surah has 73 verses. According to Ubayy bin Ka’b the best reciter of the time, this Surah used to have about 280 verses and almost equal in length with the longest Sura in the Quran today, Al-Baqara. What happened to more than 200 ayat Missing from Sura 33?

 

The lost verse of Rajm (stoning) which read as follows,

“The fornicators among the married men (ash-shaikh) and married women (ash-shaikhah), stone them as an exemplary punishment from Allah, and Allah is Mighty and Wise,” was originally found in Surah al-Ahzab.

But this verse does not exist in the Quran today!  This verse, along with verses regarding adult breast-feeding, are also lost. What happened to them?

Aisha, the favorite wife of the Prophet Muhammad tells us. In Sunan ibn Majah 1944, Aishah explains that the verses relating to Stoning and Adult Breast-Feeding were written down but…

“A sheep ate the verses under my pillow.”

The loss of the stoning verse is confirmed by Caliph Umar in Sahih Bukhari.

 

 

According to Abu Waqid al-Laithii, Muhammad recited to him the verse on “The Greed of Man” which read,

“We sent down wealth to maintain prayer and deeds of charity, and if the son of Adam had a valley he would leave it in search for another like it and, if he got another like it, he would press on for a third, and nothing would satisfy the stomach of the son of Adam but dust, yet Allah is relenting towards those who relent.”

Here is another important-sounding verse that is no longer found in today’s Qur’an. Maybe some Muslims might argue that the verse has been abrogated. But abrogated by what?  according to 2:106, Allah says, “We do not “nansakh”(abrogate) an “ayah” (verse), or “nunsiha” (make it forgotten), unless We bring one which is like it or even greater.” 

 

Zaid Ibn Thabit who was commissioned to compile the first Quran stated:

“I started looking for the Qur’an and collecting it from (what was written on) palm-leaf stalks, thin white stones, and also from the men who knew it by heart, till I found the last verse of Surat at-Tauba (repentance) with Abi Khuzaima al-Ansari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him.”

Surah al-Taubah was found with one person only. But the rule was: Zaid was only supposed to write down what was confirmed by at least TWO of Prophet Muhammad’s Companions. He wrote this verse down even though only one person had any memory of it.

 

Abu Musa al-Ash’ari, one of the early authorities on the Qur’an text and a companion of Muhammad, claimed:

“A surah which resembled at-Tawba in length and severity was forgotten and lost.” (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.501)

Surah at-Tawba today has 129 verses.  An entire Surah equivalent in length to this Surah 9 was “lost”! That’s 129 verses missing! That’s not all. Apparently Sura at-Tawba itself is missing some verses.

 

According to “The Itqan” by Suyuti Part 3, Page 184

“Malik says that several verses from chapter 9 (Sura of Repentance) have been dropped from the beginning. Among them is, ‘In the name of God the compassionate, the Merciful’ because it was proven that the length of Sura of Repentance was equal to the length of the Sura of the Cow.” 

Sura of the Cow (al-Baqarah) is the longest chapter with 286 verses.  If Surah 9 also used to have 286 verses, then 157 verses are missing because this Surah only has 129 verses today.

 

Abu Harb b. Abu al-Aswad reported on the authority of his father that Abu Musa al-Ash’ari sent for the reciters of Basra. And they said:

“And we used to recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it, but remember (this much) out of it: “O people who believe, why do you say that which you do not practise” (lxi. 2) and “that is recorded in your necks as a witness (against you) and you would be asked about it on the Day of Resurrection.”  Sahih Muslim 5:2286

You can search the entire Quran.  Such a surah containing such a verse is not found in today’s Quran.

 

Finally here’s a story that will shock you.

One of Muhammad’s personal scribes was Abdullah Ibn Abi Sarh. He would write down the prophet’s recitations faithfully.

But something strange happened….

One day while writing what Muhammad was reciting, Abdullah Ibn Abi Sarh stopped him and made a suggestion regarding the verse.  Instead of censuring his scribe for his insolence,  the prophet agreed to the changes and said “write whatever you like”.

This troubled Ibn Abi Sarh. If Allah had given the specific words to Muhammad, how could Muhammad allow it to be changed to write whatever he (Ibn Abi Sarh) liked?  The faithful sccibe was disillusioned. He exposed the prophet as a liar and a fake.  He left Islam and fled to Mecca.  Muhammad realizing he could be in trouble if Ibn Abi Sarh’s story came to light immediately received a new verse Sura 6:93 which condemns his old scribe as a liar, a wrongdoer and arrogant and promised a “punishment of extreme humiliation”.

Later when Muhammad came to conquer Mecca, guess who was the #1 on his hit list, to mete out the “punishment” ?

Here is the story as related in Alfiyyat us-Sîrat in-Nabawiyyah by al-Hâfidh al-‘Iraqî:

The scribes of Muhammad were 42 in number. `Abdallah Ibn Sarh al-`Amiri was one of them, and he was the first Quraishite among those who wrote in Mecca before he turned away from Islam.

He started saying, “I used to direct Muhammad wherever I willed. He would dictate to me ‘Most High, All-Wise’, and I would write down ‘All-Wise’ only. Then he would say, ‘Yes it is all the same’.

(also recorded in Usûd Ulghâbah fî Ma’rifat Is-Sahâbah, [Dâr al-Fikr, Beirut (Lebanon), 1995], Volume 3, p. 154)

On a certain occasion he (Muhammad) said, ‘Write such and such’, but I wrote ‘Write’ only, and he said, ‘Write whatever you like.’”

The verse (23:12) that says, ‘We created man of an extraction of clay’ was revealed, and when Muhammad reached the part that says, ‘… thereafter We produced him as another creature’ (23:14), ‘Abdallah said, ‘So blessed be God the fairest of creators!’ in amazement at the details of man’s creation. The prophet said, ‘Write it down; for thus it has been revealed.’ ‘Abdallah doubted and said, ‘If Muhammad is truthful then I receive the revelation as much as he does, and if he is a liar, what I said is a good as what he said.’”

(Anwar al-Tanzil wa Asrar al-Ta‘wil by ‘Abdallah Ibn ‘Umar al-Baidawi)

 

So on the day Muhammad conquered Mecca, he commanded his ex-scribe to be killed. But the scribe fled to Uthman Ibn Affan, because Uthman was his foster brother (his mother suckled Uthman). Uthman, therefore, kept him away from Muhammad. After the people calmed down, Uthman brought the scribe to Muhammad and sought protection for him. Muhammad kept silent for a long time, after which he said yes to preserve Abi Ibn Sarh’s life. When Uthman had left, Muhammad said to his followers there “I only kept silent so that you (the people) should kill him.”

How cowardly.

 

How many Surahs were there originally?

Today’s Quran, the version edited by Uthman, the 3rd Caliph, has 114 Surahs.

The best reciter during the time of Muhammad, Ubayy bin Ka’b, a close companion of the prophet, had his Quran had 116 Surahs. The two extra Surahs were  al-Hafd (the Haste) and al-Khal’ (the Separation).  These are not found in today’s Quran. Ubayy also combined Sura 105 and 106.  That’s not how it is arranged in today’s Quran. Don’t forget this man as the best reciter! Did he get it wrong?

Another companion and Quranic teacher was Abu Musa al-Ashari, who agreed with Ubayy, also had these two extra Surahs.  Two trusted Quranic teachers, fulfills the criteria of

The most trusted companion of Muhammad, Ibn Masood, has his Quran at around 110 Surahs, omitting Surah 1, 113 & 114, which are included Uthman’s Quran. Why?

Uthman, as we all know, of course, ordered every other version of the Quran burnt. Why would he do that?  To snuff out all the evidence? If the Quran had been perfectly preserved from Allah, as claimed by Muslims, why were there all these different versions in the first place? And please note that these versions were not by some impostors or forgers, in which case burning them could be justified.

But these were the most trusted and loyal companions (sahaba) of Muhammad himself, the very ones the prophet had entrusted with the words of the Quran! How do we know Uthman did not destroy the real Quran in his haste to declare that his version, the one compiled by Zaid ibn Thabit, was the correct one???

In fact, Ibn Masood’s Quran could really have been the genuine one.  He swore that he knew all the surahs of the Quran better than anyone else. His passion, love and devotion to the Prophet was unmistakable. Listen to what he says:

“By Allah other than Whom none has the right to be worshipped! There is no Sura revealed in Allah’s Book but I know at what place it was revealed; and there is no verse revealed in Allah’s Book but I know about whom it was revealed. And if I know that there is somebody who knows Allah’s Book better than I, and he is at a place that camels can reach, I would go to him”

“The people have been guilty of deceit in the reading of the Qur’an. I like it better to read according to the recitation of him (Prophet) whom I love more than that of Zaid Ibn Thabit. By Him besides Whom there is no god! I learnt more than seventy surahs from the lips of the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, while Zaid Ibn Thabit was a youth, (before embracing Islam) having two locks and playing with the youth”.

Basically, Ibn Masood, the most trusted of Muhammad’s companions (sahaba) was condemning Uthman’s Quran (which was compiled by Zaid ibn Thabit) and rejecting it as corrupt and incomplete.

 

(There were also an additional two Surahs, known Al-Nurayn and al-Wilaya, that are claimed to be included in the Qur’an by some Shi’ite sects. These sects would supposedly argue that Ali had a different copy of the Qur’an as compared with the third Caliph Uthman. Again the question arises why are there such disputes if the Quran had been unchanged?   There was no way to determine whose version was accurate since none of these men were prophets.  Muhammad had long been dead by the time these Qurans surfaced.)

 

Were All The Verses Remembered Perfectly?

Narrated Aisha: The Prophet heard a man reciting the Qur’an in the mosque and said, “May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such a Surah.”Sahih Bukhari 6:61:556

‘A’isha reported that the Apostle of Allah heard a person reciting the Qur’an at night. Upon this he said: May Allah show mercy to him; he has reminded me of such and such a verse which I had missed in such and such a surah. Sahih Muslim 4:1720

 

 

Even the Prophet Muhammad did not remember the verses correctly.

Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas’ud: … (Muhammad said) I am only a human being and I forget just as you do; so when I forget, remind me … (Sunan Abu Dawud: bk. 3, no. 1015; also Sahih al-Bukhari:vol. 1, bk. 8, no. 394)

And they were reciting it differently.

Narrated Ibrahim: The companions of ‘Abdullah (bin Mas’ud) came to Abu Darda’, (and before they arrived at his home), he looked for them and found them. Then he asked them,: “Who among you can recite (Qur’an) as ‘Abdullah recites it?” They replied, “All of us.” He asked, “Who among you knows it by heart?” They pointed at ‘Alqama. Then he asked Alqama. “How did you hear ‘Abdullah bin Mas’ud reciting Surat Al-Lail (The Night)?“ Alqama recited: “By the male and the female.” (Qur’an 92:3) Abu Darda said, “I testify that I heard the Prophet reciting it likewise, but these people want me to recite it: “And by Him Who created male and female.” (Qur’an 92:3) But by Allah, I will not follow them.” (Sahih al-Bukhari: vol. 6, bk. 60, no. 468; also Sahih Muslim: bk. 4, no. 1799-1802)

 

If the prophet and his companions are forgetting verses,  reciting it differently, how can it be said that the Quran is unchanged?  There are missing verses. Entire surahs lost because they were forgotten or simply eaten by a goat.

Is this why Umar had declared:

“Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Quran, for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Quran has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available’